Brainpolice on The Myth of 'The Rule of Law'

Published almost four years ago, The Myth of the ‘Rule of Law’ by Brainpolice is a damn solid write-up. That said, it’s almost certain that some readers may take issue with the article’s stated premise: there is NO ‘rule of law.’ But why?

Is Brainpolice wrong? Or might some readers unthinkingly default to a support-the-current-system stance based on their lifetime of pro-State rhetoric peddled in public schools, via the lamestream media, and from talking heads?

One point of clarification that’s more semantics than divergence is Brainpolice’s use of the word “law” – I’d use “legislation” to refer to anything man-made and “law” to refer to natural law, common law, or god’s law (take your pick, based on your preference). After all, those of us who point-out the bad actions of individuals wearing badges often are told “If you don’t agree with it change the law.” It’s not the law I seek to change (after all, I agree with the law, that I shouldn’t initiate force) but legislation. Why should you have a duty to pay attention to and abide by what some strangers write, especially as you’ve never signed or verbalized support of such dictates.

Of course we all want to live in peaceful, prosperous society where individual rights are safeguarded, but how is that best achieved? Through a top-down, centralized State, who’s agents create and interpret (allowing for double-standards) the rules or through an organic, bottom-up process? Children know it’s not right to steal, lie or hit, do we really need some strangers telling us how to behave?

————————————————————–

The theory of a republic is essentially that, in contrast to democracy in which there is tyranny of the majority and in contrast to monarchy in which there is the rule of a single man or oligarchy, the law itself is what rules rather than men. In essence, a republic is supposed to be a model for government that avoids being both both democracy and monarchy, and allegedly replaces the administration of men over men with the administration of the law itself over men. In a republic, the law is supposed to restrain the lay public from creating tyranny of the majority (I.E. a democracy) and simultaneously restrain the institutional agents of the state from functioning as an elite of rulers imposing their will on the lay public (I.E. an oligarchy).

But a basic understanding of how human beings work and a rational analysis of how the state functions as an institution, including so-called republics, renders this theory of government as a rather blatant absurdity. How can a law be self-enforcing? By definition, a governmental law is drafted by men and must be enforced by men. No political system can escape the rule of men, for all political systems are created and run by men. At the same time, no political system is the result of the decisions of everyone within a society, for at a fundamental level all political systems are oligarchies in which a small percentage of the overall population are those with direct control over the state apparatus, those who actually make and enforce the laws.

The absurdity of the notion that a piece of paper with words on it in and of itself will fatalistically or pre-emptively stop human beings (including those within the state apparatus itself) from engaging in certain actions should be rather obvious. In terms of the lay public, they may theoretically engage in such actions anyways and their actions may be rather unpredictable. A piece of paper isn’t going to restrain a mob. And in terms of those within the state apparatus themselves, they have most leeway of all in the matter, for it is ultimately they who make the laws and may choose to enforce or not enforce them. Since they are not really bound by any higher external 3rd party institution, they may theoretically function in a lawless manner. The law maker is effectively and seemingly paradoxically “above the law”. For since they have a monopoly on law, they may theoretically interpret it and defy it as they please. The law is not binding on them. Rather, the law’s content and applicability is actually bound to their whims as the ones with power.

So it would seem that an attempt at a republic will always reduce to some kind of oligarchy, most likely a representative democracy with a constitution. The constitution is merely an additional feature of the democracy that is meant to restrain both the people and the government. Except a constitution cannot really be effective in any consistent or long-term sense. It will not fatalistically restrain institutional agents of the state from using power and the lay public from engaging in majoritarian or mob behavior. As the decades and centuries pass, it becomes less and less meaningful and effective as a society evolves (or devolves). At best, it functions as a lame rationale to provide legitimacy to the state while its alleged function as a restraint is rendered meaningless by the ability of the state’s institutional agents to exercise their power. A constitution does nothing to actually restrain or take away the opportunity or ability for institutional agents of the state to use power.

The notion of the rule of law would only make sense if the state was an entity external to human interaction, as if it were not made up of human beings but was enforced through some natural or supernatural mechanism. But the state is quite clearly created and administered by acting human beings. It is not some sort of intrinsic mechanism of nature that functions independently of human action, or the result of the will of some deity. The only laws that can be said to rule all on their own irrespective of men are natural laws. But natural law is not something that political systems are based on, as political systems are the synthetic creations of men. At best, natural law is an independent standard of justice that currently existing political systems may be held up to and discredited with. While some early natural law theories were used to legitimize states, a properly formed and applied natural law theory can only be used to delegitimize states.

There is good reason to be quite skeptical towards the effectiveness of governmentally created laws to begin with. Not only is it absurd to propose that laws can rule on on their own, but the ability of human beings to enforce them is quite limited due to a certain factor of unpredictability in the behavior of human beings. That is, the mere existence of a law illegalizing certain actions and even the existence of an institutional apparatus that attempts to have humans enforce such a law and threatens punishment for defying it does not guarantee that people will not in fact defy the law and that people will not in fact get away with defying the law. While this has obvious implications with respect to laws prohibiting economic interactions (which are miserable failures in light of their own alleged goals), it is even true with respect to laws against basics that everyone pretty much agrees are wrong like murder, rape and theft.

The notion that most people generally don’t murder, rape and steal either solely or primarily because there is a governmental law against them is rather absurd if one accepts the premise of free will (at least some kind of compatibalism). The existence of a governmental law in and of itself is not the cause of good or ethical behavior, and some people do engage in the shunned actions in question despite the existence of a law against it. If someone is truly determined to engage in such an action, they are going to do it regardless of whether or not there is a governmental law against it. Criminals are criminals precisely because they have an extremely high time preference, I.E. they want what they want now regardless of potential negative consequences that may come about in the future. If someone does not engage in such an action, it is mostly likely primarily because they themselves find it ethically impermissible. Social convention itself, combined with the natural incentives towards social cooperation, is the primary reason why most people tend to generally be peaceful in interpersonal relations.

In a fundamental sense, a society truly cannot be planned or socially engineered in the long-run, even by laws. A society is the sum total of interactions between the individuals that make it up, and such interpersonal relations are so complex and diverse that it would be impossible for a single individual or organization to truly predict and absolutely control their behavior. No human being or group of human beings has the mental capacity, let alone the physical ability, to deterministically control and pre-empt the behavior of everyone within a society. They would have to be omniscient to do so. The mere fact that one can only be at one place at one time renders any attempt to efficiently exercise such control ridiculous and pointless. So it could be said that all government is fortunately limited by definition, limited by the natural limits of human ability and the unpredictability and diversity of human behavior.

Quite clearly, the law is not something worthy of putting much of one’s faith in, even with good intentions.

————————————————————–

For more:
The Myth of the ‘Rule of Law’ by John Hasnas [article]
Anarchy and the Law edited by Ed Stringham [book]
I’m Allowed to Rob You! by Larken Rose

, , , , , , , , , ,

37 Responses to Brainpolice on The Myth of 'The Rule of Law'

  1. Common Sense 2012/02/17 at 9:55 AM #

    I am unsure of your intent. You say to move away from a form of government and rely on ‘natural law’ – and hope every is just going to behave? And comparing police work to politics are two very separate things. In theory you could have a star trek utopia but neither you nor I will see it in our lifetime, there will always be crime, always be people willing to steal rather then earn and use violence instead of debate or medidate. All people are fallible. There are good doctors and bad plumbers, good cops and terrible cops.

    I think you would do much better seeking a new statute, some type of ‘misconduct in office’ or something with a mandatory 5 yrs. I think citing cases of gross police and offical misconduct you might get some speed.

  2. tz 2012/02/17 at 11:30 AM #

    Back when the constitution was written, the idea was to find a way to get the legislation to conform to the natural law.

    The Catholic church teaches Subsidiarity, where the smallest, most local authority competent to do something should be doing it, not one level higher. Just because the Dept. of Education is a monster doesn’t mean we ought not teach. Homeschool, or a group can hire a teacher, and even school districts are not very tyrannical.

    The reason for Government is to protect the weak against the powerful (and power may be in stealth or guile). The powerful don’t normally need protecting as they can defend themselves – but even that can go awry.

    Rights are mentioned, but if you find something stolen, will you respect my right against self-incrimination? No magistrates, no warrants, so will you not search me or my property, or write your own “writ of assistance”? Can I compel witnesses to testify to my innocence – and where if there is no court for a trial? And will you demonstrate my guilt beyond a reasonable doubt to a jury of my peers? Will you engage in cruel and unusual punishment or excessive fines?

    Even if those who believe in no government here can come up with a way of doing so, how will they control the rest of society that will seek immediate revenge and not care to look very hard for evidence before asserting a suspect is guilty?

    Badges don’t grant special rights, in fact it requires the owner to observe rights more carefully and be in control of him/herself, to act with far more prudence, temperance, and fortitude than the average man. Rights are given up for a badge. Or ought to be.

    If you would seek to remove the badge, you also remove the rights. You can talk about natural law, but it is in the context of a society that believes in moral relativism. The rule of law could be called the rule of right reason. What we have now is everyone makes up their own rules and own law.

    See C.S. Lewis Abolition of Man for a description of Natural Law and what happens when objective morality is denied. And for illustrations:

    http://www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/arch/lewis/abolition4.htm

    I would have no problem living in a society where everyone believed in the full natural law, but the deep tradition within the Natural Law calls for a lot of things to be treated as shameful which are common in 2012. Crimes are only such things that destroy the peace or community to such an extent that not just shame but violence is justified. But no one has any shame today – not even Cops, but not even most fighting for liberty.

    Most people want only the half of the Natural Law that leaves them alone but not the other half which points out duties and says many things they are doing are evil. But it is not severable.

    Were all practicing self-control there would be no need for police. Even if a large majority were self-controlled, the police would have but a minor role. But today relativistic “rights” include the right not to control yourself. Cops behaving badly are simply one small symptom of this greater problem.

  3. Amigajoe 2012/02/17 at 3:14 PM #

    “Children know it’s not right to steal, lie or hit, do we really need some strangers telling us how to behave?”

    -Um, children do all those things. Unless their behavior is curbed by their parents they continue to do those things. If you want to know how a society functions without laws or government, I’d suggest you check out Somalia; the Libertarian Paradise…

  4. WhenTennesseePigsFly 2012/02/17 at 3:44 PM #

    The whole idea of rule of law has always been one of simple cliche.

    In short, people obey the law if they believe it’s legitimate. Murder, kidnapping, rape, stealing… all those are no brainers for 98% of the population.

    Laws such as prohibition both past and present were all scoffed at by large portions of the population for the simple reason, they believed them to not be legitimate.

    I read a wonderful book recently, written by a guy named Tom Tyler called, Why People Obey the Law.

    And its whole premise was boiled down to the simple fact. That lawmakers and law enforcers would do much better to make legal systems worthy of respect than to try to instill fear of punishment.

    Its a simple concept to everyone, but its one that escapes the lawmakers and law enforcers comprehension.

  5. t. 2012/02/17 at 4:51 PM #

    CZ: Very well stated.

    AMIGAJOE: Very good point.

    TENPIGS: Whatever I say you will disagree with, but tell us of your uptopian dream legal system.

    This is all just fantasy. Most folks will and do respect the rights of others. The problem comes from those that don’t. I have no desire to get involved with the bad guy / bullies in this society. But someone has to. Some people just choose to do whatever they want, regardless of the consequences to others. The fantasy above won’t help with that (unless God goes back to some good old time smiting of evil doers). It’s a sweet thought that we can just all get along and settle our differences like adults. But that is just plain stupid. To many bullies in this society that want to take my stuff to get something for themselves, without giving anything back to society.

    Our legal system, form of government, and society aren’t perfect. It look at history and at the current systems in place elsewhere in the world today. Hands down, ours is far and away the best.

  6. WhenTennesseePigsFly 2012/02/17 at 5:11 PM #

    I don’t have an ideal uptopian dream legal system…

    But I do think the current crop if ailments that our rights are suffering from is wholly the direct result of the failed war on some drugs.

    Prohibition failed miserable once in our nations history, why would it work a second time around?

    Albert Einstein said it best… The definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results…

  7. paschn 2012/02/17 at 5:29 PM #

    Speaking on the “rule of Law”, the criminal cabal controlling our currency and bleeding us dry has a book of law you might find interesting. In abstract, this filth is protected by the boys-in-blue. It might explain the rapid decline of the Fascist States of Amerika

    http://roytov.com/articles/talmud.htm

    This is the stuff nightmares are made of.

  8. t. 2012/02/17 at 9:56 PM #

    TEN PIGS: The WAR ON DRUGS is what it is. It’s not great. It is expensive. (And I know you you will absolutely not agree with this but..) But lots of other crimes are tied / related to the use of illegal drugs. Not just the sale/possession/use of the drugs, but crimes committed to get those drugs. Crimes committed while using/impaired by those drugs. It simple isn’t as simple as legalize dope. The community where I work doesn’t want that. They want a community that is safe for their kids and for themselves. Drug use erodes that safety. And I remember 1comment you made at me about not being able to ever remember prosecuting a burglar, or robber, or thief with extensive drugs records. Lack of an extensive record, well maybe. But I know for a fact that in 16 years I’ve never arrest any of those same individuals that didn’t have a drug component to there crime. Again, is just isn’t that simple to say do whatever you want.

    PASCHN: Setting your conspiracies aside for a moment. How, do tell, does the banking system result in domestic violence? Or drunk driving? Or someone breaking into my car? Easy. It doesn’t. And here lies the problem with the as proposed above flower child legal system. That plan is all good, until it isn’t good. I’m sure you love this plan. But what happens when someone targets on of you loved ones? Or that drunk driver kills your wife or mom because there are no “mean police officers” out there to stop him before he does it. Oh, you bitch about it.

    Again, the police aren’t perfect. Our system isn’t perfect. But this communist bad dream is far worse.

  9. Carlos 2012/02/18 at 1:03 AM #

    @T:

    If our system is the…“BEST” of the world as you claim, how come we aren’t leading the world as the LESS corrupt country in the world per this list:

    http://cpi.transparency.org/cpi2011/results/

    Coincidentally, the countries where drugs have been made legal are LESS CORRUPT than the U.S.A. and their INCARCERATION RATES are much LOWER than us…

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarceration_rate

    Has your BRAIN ever wondered why is that?

    Carlos

  10. t. 2012/02/18 at 7:46 AM #

    @paschn : Followed you first link. You need to read the title of it before you present it as fact. As for the second, that’s freaking Wikipedia. Give me a break on your “facts.” But if if you love those so much better socialist societies that are screaming towards ruin, please feel free to go join them. Just don’t take me with you.

  11. t. 2012/02/18 at 7:48 AM #

    @Carlos : Followed you first link. You need to read the title of it before you present it as fact. As for the second, that’s freaking Wikipedia. Give me a break on your “facts.” But if if you love those so much better socialist societies that are screaming towards ruin, please feel free to go join them. Just don’t take me with you. Sorry paschn.

  12. paschn 2012/02/18 at 8:52 AM #

    I don’t know the average age of any of you, but I’m appproaching the point that, when I fart, a dust cloud forms, then disipates.
    This country has NEVER been as “good” as they make most of you believe, never.

    It isn’t “benevolent” to foreign nations in need, beyond what the owned media plasters in front of your faces,(Confessions of an economic Hitman,John Perkins), it doesn’t give a flying f**k about you as an individual,

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/09/17/us-usa-healthcare-deaths-idUSTRE58G6W520090917

    or as a group,

    http://www.2ndbattalion94thartillery.com/Chas/Sawyer.htm

    Our politicians have sold out this country to a foreign power that attack and murder your fellow citizens with immunity,

    http://www.uss-liberty.com/2011/10/09/how-israel-almost-got-the-u-s-to-nuke-egypt-and-start-world-war-three-with-russia/

    And have committed us all, past/present/future to slavery to a PRIVATE banking system which is illegal and unconstitutional as is it’s PRIVATE collection agency, the IRS

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-515319560256183936#docid=-1138597812890776821

    “BLIND FAITH” was a helluva great group in the ’60′s but it makes for terrible consequences when a culture/society practices it…every hour….every day..over and over again. Realize there’s a great difference between love of country and loyalty to a government that has only one agenda; steal all you can carry and what you can’t carry, give to your masters but F**K the “rank and file!”
    The “tribe” used it to murder tens of millions in Russia/Ukraine/Germany et al and with just a few minor changes, they’re bringing it here

    “I can hire one-half of the working class to kill the other half.”
    Jay Gould.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wage_slavery

    I’m going to now ask you to think about the above quote as it applies to what goes on when peaceful demonstrators with a LEGAL and LEGITIMATE bitch about this gang of traitors/thieves we call “government”, when “civil servants” disguise themselves as participants for the sole purpose of creating an atmosphere of “criminal actions” that lead certain groups, (the “one-half”), we’ll call the sycophants-in-blue, to delightedly obey immoral/illegal orders to block/obstruct/beat/injure/kill those demonstrators, (“the other half”).
    there isn’t a rational, objective, thinking individual that can defend filth such as they OR their actions….if that individual tries, he is neither rational OR objective and CERTAINLY not thinking, he’s a stinking coward doing his masters’ bidding, nothing more.

  13. Carlos 2012/02/18 at 1:39 PM #

    @T:

    Of course, Mr. “T”, what COP wouldn’t like it here in the States than somewhere else?

    Here, in the States, you COPS have been given LEEWAY by our Lawmakers and Judges [Courts] to do WHATEVER you want to do and NOT be held accountable for your actions.

    Sure, you rather be HERE than in those European countries where you can NOT abuse people and get away with it as you do HERE.

    It’s understandable…

    Carlos

  14. t. 2012/02/18 at 2:24 PM #

    @Carlos: Do you ever even read anything on this site (not that this site is the pillar of respectable journalism) ?? Stories of cops being held accountable all the time. So how does it feels to be so wrong?

    As for those great European countries. All; have to say is Greece. That’s where your socialist crap is trying to take us. No thanks.

  15. Carlos 2012/02/18 at 2:49 PM #

    Greece?

    Did I even mention Greece in my posts?

    Why not compare this “lovely” country to…Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, Switzerland, Iceland, The Netherlands, Belgium, the U.K.

    Are those countries poor or are in worst shape than the U.S.? I doubt it.

    Again, you COPS like it here because in more than 50% of the cases brought up against you by civilians in court, you usually prevail.

    WHY?

    Because many Judges SIDE with Cops…Employees of the STATE paid by the STATE, like you…what can you expect?

    What a JOKE !

  16. Guy 2012/02/18 at 3:24 PM #

    All this diatribe about communist and socialist shows the ignorance of all who do not realize the dire straits this nation is in. Just take the time to study the Communist Manifesto and one will readily realize that we’ve “been there and done that”. Bootlickers stay strong!!! You’re gonna need it.

  17. t. 2012/02/18 at 7:48 PM #

    GUY: Thanks for more input. No, really, thanks.

    CARLOS: No, you didn’t mention Greece. I did. That’s where your crap is taking us. Those other countries you listed don’t have anywhere near the amount of: immigrants, drug problems, or enjoyed freedoms for their citizens. Some of them a quite nice though. I would like to recommend you and most of the others on this site take a very long vacation in any of them.

  18. Guy 2012/02/18 at 8:43 PM #

    @t: thank you for thanking. We all are in deep kimchee.

  19. t. 2012/02/18 at 9:37 PM #

    Guy, don’t ever change. You sir are an absolute prize.

  20. Carlos 2012/02/18 at 10:48 PM #

    @T:

    I leave you this quote below, use your brain [if COPS ever got one] and think about it:

    “TO SIN BY SILENCE WHEN WE SHOULD PROTEST MAKES COWARDS OUT OF MEN”

    —Ella Wheeler Wilcox

  21. certain 2012/02/19 at 5:43 AM #

    You only think our broken and corrupt system is the best because you are one of the broken and corrupt parts of it. No system which allows an officer to murder an unarmed person and get away with it could ever be considered the best.

  22. Common Sense 2012/02/19 at 7:22 AM #

    I wonder if all the nutters who think about global conspiracies and the like get together at like annual meetings and hold conferences. It would be a good place to give them all an ear tag, like a cow, so its easy to ID them.

    Well, I think that’s too overt and costly, besides, I’m sure the CIA already put a GPS chip in their last dental work.

    ..I saw it on X-Files so it got to be true.

  23. t. 2012/02/19 at 8:51 AM #

    Carlos: Nice quote. Out of context (kinda like you), but nice quote anyway.

  24. Carlos 2012/02/19 at 12:34 PM #

    @T:

    Nope, not out of context as you claim.

    This site is about fighting INJUSTICE and POLICE PRIVILEGES in America and was founded on that basis.

    Therefore, nobody here except COPS like you, who have been granted permission to come here and post justification for their illegal and abusive actions against the public [www.injusticeeverywhere.com], nobody here except you, are going to be justifying the unjustifiable.

    If NO ONE in America protest for the Police ABUSES, then WHO is going to do it? What will happen if WE, the PEOPLE allow this to continue and escalate more and just turn blind eye on it?

    “First they came for the communists,
    and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a communist.

    Then they came for the trade unionists,
    and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a trade unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews,
    and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a Jew.

    Then they came for me
    and there was no one left to speak out for me.”

  25. t. 2012/02/19 at 12:54 PM #

    Carols: Who speaks for you. I’m the guy that works to defend that freedom. As for being allowed to come to this site. Wow, nice sense of freedom you’ve got there Carlos. As for you last quote, when they come for the socialists, jump up and wave, because your proud of it right.

  26. Carlos 2012/02/19 at 2:06 PM #

    @T:

    Military defend our freedoms fighting enemies abroad in situations you could have never imagined, never compared to half dozen of squad cars with 2 cops each to “subdue” just…a pot smoker.

    Yours is just a piece of cake when you compare to our military have to endure in places like Afghanistan…Busting a guy because you caught him smoking pot doesn’t even compare to it.

    Furthermore, ON TOP OF THAT, you abuse people, you COPS beat the hell out of people and, if there is NO evidence to prove otherwise, you allege the guy was…”RESISTING” the arrest.

    The good thing nowadays, is that since Rodney King’s beating back in 1991, people have now become more AWARE and always carry their CAMERAS and PHONES and videotape the Police so you guys can NOT deny wrongdoings because there IS evidence that proves otherwise.

    Being a Cop is not even the more dangerous job out there. There are many others that rightly qualify for that. But…if you CAN’T take the heat…get the hell out of the kitchen.

    Carlos

  27. WhenTennesseePigsFly 2012/02/19 at 4:13 PM #

    t. says: Who speaks for you. I’m the guy that works to defend that freedom.

    Seriously?!?!

    Man what a T, that statement is way over the top, even for you…

    Your a cop, not a, Soldier or Marine, or some stylized freedom fighter… please get over yourself and your ego, its embarrassing.

    Cops are civilians, QED…

    Further if you look at history, its replete with examples of .govs attacking their own populations and they all have one thing in common. It was the enforcers who were used to effect those attacks.

    Even Rome suffered at the hands of its aediles, the ancient Roman Police…

  28. t. 2012/02/19 at 8:20 PM #

    TENPIGS: Wow, thanks for the love, well, not love I guess. But you people are just soooo focused on your dope love. Hell, Carlos can’t see anything but that. YOU (Mr. Lawyer) should know better. The “war on drugs” is only a smart part of what most police officers do. Even as a drug investigator arresting pot heads was only a small part, and usually more of a route to other things.

    The freedoms that I fight for everyday (everyday CARLOS, everyday) are most times citizen on citizen. I have to protect peoples rights to be secure. Secure in there homes, vehicles, workplaces. I have try and ensure that the bullies in society don’t pray on the weak. I know, I know, i’m really the bad guy repressing people. Repressing their right to smoke their dope (sorry but it always comes back to dope love around here). I’ve said it many times, I end up in the middle on almost every call. Domestics, child custody, even damn Los noise calls. I have to try and mediate and find the right balance of everyone’s rights. That is clearly the biggest problem the “cop blockers” have. They always think that their rights are the most important.
    Ten., you really should know better. Carlos, your just some kind of crazy

  29. Carlos 2012/02/19 at 9:23 PM #

    @T:

    What a bunch of HORSE SHIT!

    You the COP, now renaming yourself as the “Protector” of our freedoms.
    WOW! What an E-G-O !

    What freedoms?

    Like the one below?

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/01/29/she-dialed-911-the-cop-who-came-to-help-raped-her.html

    Your existence is just to be an instrument of the STATE to defend the Government’s interests against the people.

    In regards to drug use, read what a former L.E.O. [I hate that term, LEO]:

    “Jailing people because they put certain chemicals into their bloodstream is a gross misuse of police and criminal law. Jailing drug users does not lessen drug use, and incarceration usually destroys the person’s life and does immense harm to that person’s family and neighborhood.” ~Joseph D. McNamara, Former Police Chief, 35 years in law enforcement.

    You COPS issue traffic tickets, for example, to collect revenues for the state, nothing more.

    SEE THIS:

    http://www.motorists.org/speed-limits/faq

    That myth that you’re “PROTECTING” people has been DEBUNKED many times.

    The major myths about police – that they have the most dangerous job there is, that brutality is rare, that corruption and violence are the fault of a few bad apples, and that they do good for communities
    The police are instituted by the state for the protection of the state. If you live in a place where you have police you live in a police state, get it?

    The Police are here to keep the majority(the 99% of Americans who are fed a bone and kept happy by their unbelievably blind and childish materialistic desires) in line and following the bias rules (difference of jail-time for cocaine vs crack for example) so the wealthy 1% can keep stealing the money from them.

    Police exist for one reason and one reason alone : To maintain the current class order and hierarchies of society.

  30. Carlos 2012/02/19 at 11:35 PM #

    Carlos says:
    Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    February 19, 2012 at 9:23 pm

    @T:

    What a bunch of HORSE SHIT!

    You the COP, now renaming yourself as the “Protector” of our freedoms.
    WOW! What an E-G-O !

    What freedoms?

    Like the one below?

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/01/29/she-dialed-911-the-cop-who-came-to-help-raped-her.html

    Your existence is just to be an instrument of the STATE to defend the Government’s interests against the people.

    In regards to drug use, read what a former L.E.O. [I hate that term, LEO]:

    “Jailing people because they put certain chemicals into their bloodstream is a gross misuse of police and criminal law. Jailing drug users does not lessen drug use, and incarceration usually destroys the person’s life and does immense harm to that person’s family and neighborhood.” ~Joseph D. McNamara, Former Police Chief, 35 years in law enforcement.

    You COPS issue traffic tickets, for example, to collect revenues for the state, nothing more.

    SEE THIS:

    http://www.motorists.org/speed-limits/faq

    That myth that you’re “PROTECTING” people has been DEBUNKED many times.

    The major myths about police – that they have the most dangerous job there is, that brutality is rare, that corruption and violence are the fault of a few bad apples, and that they do good for communities
    The police are instituted by the state for the protection of the state. If you live in a place where you have police you live in a police state, get it?

    The Police are here to keep the majority(the 99% of Americans who are fed a bone and kept happy by their unbelievably blind and childish materialistic desires) in line and following the bias rules (difference of jail-time for cocaine vs crack for example) so the wealthy 1% can keep stealing the money from them.

    Police exist for one reason and one reason alone : To maintain the current class order and hierarchies of society.

  31. paschn 2012/02/20 at 7:41 AM #

    I’ll be damned! It appears the former decent nation of Canada has it’s own curse of 1% vs 99%

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/story/2010/12/09/bnai-brith-director-surkis-child-pornography-sentence.html

    I wonder what it was about that sick pig which prompted their system to mete out “justice” in the form of 45 days served on weekends and no mandatory inclusion on pedophile watch lists? Possibly a blood connection to Canada’s very own Central banking “system”?

    Ahhhh, “justice”.

  32. PSOSGT 2012/02/20 at 10:03 AM #

    @carlos The Corruption Perceptions Index ranks countries and territories according to their perceived levels of public sector corruption… not really a hard core fact. it’s a scale based on how we percieve things.. it’s a bight suny day outside right now! looks beautiful. Perception is that it’s nice out… but it’s still 18 degrees. Pretty damn cold. Perception is wrong.

  33. Carlos 2012/02/20 at 3:51 PM #

    @PSOSGT:

    I sincerely hope you are KIDDING.

    Are you trying to tell me that there is no CORRUPTION in the U.S.A.?

    The Police is the main protagonist in the corruption scheme in this country and help perpetuate it.

    The web-site below, is not just about police abuse, it’s about CORRUPTION in the POLICE:

    http://www.injusticeeverywhere.com

    None of the stories referenced on that web-site would need to be posted if there was not corruption in the POLICE.

    Did you get it?

    What about these links below, PSOSGT?

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/02/12/national/main4797237.shtml

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/01/26/us-usa-prosecutor-lawsuit-sb-idUSTRE50P58020090126

    http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-02-14/news/ct-met-chicago-police-officers-arrested-20120214_1_fbi-informant-fbi-sting-chicago-cops

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/01/29/she-dialed-911-the-cop-who-came-to-help-raped-her.html

    PSOSGT: The FEW links above are just a FEW samples of this “BEAUTIFUL” country where ALL COPS and JUDGES are…”HONEST”

    Do I need to post more links?

    NO WONDER why YOU and your BUDDIES, by ANY means would NOT like to leave the U.S. for the European countries I mentioned in my old posts.

    ha, ha, ha, ha…

  34. t. 2012/02/20 at 9:09 PM #

    Carlos: Damn you are stubborn in your foolishness. I don’t think you see anyone claiming that there isn’t corruption in police departments, or government. But guess what dork, there is also corruption in every business. People steal shit. They lie on their taxes. They cheat on their wives. Cops are still humans. Damn your stupid stubborn.

    I don’t claim to be superman, or prefect. Apparently you are perfect. But you are so focused on your dope love that that’s all you see. Traffic enforcement has a very good and real purpose (don’t get me wrong, there are guys out there just love it for whatever reason) and I know that in some jurisdictions those some of those funds come straight back to those departments. Drug enforcement also has a real reason (believe it or not Carlos, not everyone smokes or wants their kids exposed to dope smokers). And although you don’t agree (and never does TenPigs), drug use, whatever drug, leads directly to lots of other crimes.

    But you just can’t see that that is a very small part of what most officers do. I spent my day today keeping a 15 year old girl from trying to commit suicide. That’s pretty freaking important you retard.

    By the way, there is a reason they call it dope, you dope.

  35. Carlos 2012/02/20 at 10:38 PM #

    @T: [and this ones goes for PSOSGT, unless it's the same person]

    I say to you: The donkey talking about ears…

    You call me STUBBORN, and you’re one who wouldn’t change his points of view even when the TRUTH would bit you in the ass.

    Typical COP…you’re a lost case.
    Trying to reason with you is like plowing into the sea.
    No wonder Cops’ IQ is among the lowest out there. No need of a College Diploma to become a Cop.

    Good luck with you life.

  36. t 2012/02/21 at 10:36 PM #

    Carlos, thanks good luck to you as well.

Trackbacks/Pingbacks

  1. Brainpolice on The Myth of ‘The Rule of Law’ | GrassrootsHeadlines.com - 2012/02/18

    [...] Brainpolice on The Myth of ‘The Rule of Law’ is a post from Cop Block – Badges Don't Grant Extra Rights If you enjoyed this post, make sure you subscribe to my RSS feed! [...]

Leave a Reply